it's an environment, nuclear weapons. those are issues that can only be -- [inaudible] in which cooperation between china and united states, that we found consensus? no. but i have participated in many conversations that indicate that it is possible to have such a dialogue, and that also that the alternative, it's really going to be in my view very similar. >> let's go to the middle with a man in a hat. wait for the mic upon. >> i am with national advisory council south asian affairs. i'm reading dr. kissinger's book on china, and on the paging out of chairman, i since one of the reasons might have been is very close relations with you, and his 100% agreement on proceeding with everything that you wanted to accomplish on behalf of the total policy that china and u.s. were following at that time. in other words, to get the soviet union's -- [inaudible] towards china. >> dr. kissinger, the question again is -- [inaudible] >> in conversations that occurred after 1973 of having, to be agreeable to the united states. .. simply